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British investigators say the cause of the sinking of the Bayesiansuperyacht that killed seven people, including billionaire tech magnate Mike Lynch in Italy in 2024, is from being knocked over by extreme wind and could not recover. (CTV News)
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Two hikers are found dead and seven others are rescued after they were swept away by a river while hiking near Didier Waterfall on the island of Martinique. (AP)
At least 28 people are killed in an Israeli air strike that struck the Gaza European Hospital, which the Israeli military claims had a Hamas command and control centre beneath the building. (BBC News)
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Nominator's comments: American actor with some high-profile roles. Death was on the 7th but first reports of it seem to be on this date (and now only getting to major sources). Article has usual problems for actors, as well as lacking more info on his death. Masem (t) 12:04, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose This does not even have its own article, and is not important to post on ITN, this comes from a military junta, like Tajikistan and other nations, they do this, they are dictators, so we are not a newspaper. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:4118:262A:9078:8BF5 (talk) 19:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose The event described does not have an article. The dissolution is not discussed in any of the articles linked in the blurb (save for literally the five-word sentence, "On 13 May 2025, Goïta dissolves all political parties" in the Goita article). There needs to be a valid target article which will be bolded. FlipandFlopped㋡20:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment a standalone article is not a requirement for ITN, just that there is an updated article. Per WP:ITNUPDATE, the decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective, but a five-sentence update (with at minimum three references, not counting duplicates) is generally more than sufficient, while a one-sentence update is highly questionable.Natg 19 (talk) 21:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment According to One-party state, Mali has been here before from 1960–68 and 1976-91. The current junta was already failing to hold elections and this decree is an extension of its tyranny. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:12, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: this sounds significant, but there's no prose description of these events in any of the linked articles, so nothing for us to assess. If it's an update to an existing article, there needs to be at least a full paragraph of referenced prose describing the events, supported by references. If it's a new article, more like three paragraphs to avoid being a stub. Articles should be updated before making an ITN nomination. Modest Geniustalk11:30, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
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Nominator's comments: Influential former President of Uruguay, arguably an influential South American politician in the 2010s. International obits already being published. Article in decent shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as RD: The article is in good shape, but he's not big enough for a blurb. He's nowhere near the international significance of Pope Francis, a recent death that merited a blurb. Cambalachero (talk) 19:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Article looks good. Major political figure in his region as well as his nation. Passed several major reforms in Uruguay during his tenure. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb A household name for people around the world, especially due to his humility. I've heard his name many times in sermons and motivational seminars. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael22:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For those recommending a blurb, the article is very weak in explaining how he merits being considered a major figure. There are details scattered around but there should be a dedicated section that a reader can immediately be drawn to to understand that. Obits now may be able to flesh that out. Otherwise as it stands, I am not convinced he was a major figure to qualify for a blurb, as just being a former leader is not sufficient for that. Masem (t) 22:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For all purpose, yes, the basic RD support is there as the normal quality is met. I just don't like that to a reader coming to the page that his significance as a major figure is something not glaring clear and instead diluted through the article. Masem (t) 13:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb You may have to read the whole article to kind of understand the influence, but I don't feel that (if an "impact and legacy"-esque section doesn't evolve naturally, which it might, especially with obits) we should be summarising articles within themselves just so people clicking through from the main page don't have to read the whole thing. Kingsif (talk) 22:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - Notable indeed and worthy of a blurb. Article could be more comprehensive but is good enough at this time for the Front page, in my view. Decently written and cited. Jusdafax (talk) 01:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pull, consensus is that old politicians dying when they are out of office shouldn't get blurbs. Also, this discussion wasn't given enough time for editors to weigh in. Abductive (reasoning)09:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such consensus. Jiang Zemin, Mikhail Gorbachev, Jimmy Carter, Benito Aquino, George Bush, Sr., even Henry Kissinger who was not head of state, former Greece King, all got posted. Probably there were even more whom I can't remember immediately. BilboBeggins (talk) 09:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support blurb - Mujica's death made the BBC News homepage, which strongly suggests to me that his significance is more than merely local or regional. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I still have not seen, in the article, in this discussion, or in news articles themselves, anything that makes him so internationally significant to deserve a blurb rather than just a RD. Significant, yes: he was a president, he was popular in his home country, he did some stuff as president, he held diplomatic relations with his neighbors, some people said nice things about him... but what else? And with all due respect to Uruguay, he's not even the president of a significant country, such as those in the G20. Cambalachero (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose pull This is not big news -- only 36K views yesterday -- but he's an interesting subject. And the priority for me is keeping ITN fresh. The blurb which would be reinstated is the Kentucky Derby. That was already over a week stale and it would be disrespectful to pull this for a horse race. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We can't force news to happen. Most of the major stories going on are either tied to existing ongoing or related to politics, which we have termined are not great ITN without clear sign of a larger impact (like the tariffs and trade war onset). Eg the media is obsessed with Trump taking the plane from Qatar but that's not really ITN material. Masem (t) 14:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And yet you support a blurb about the death of a politician, and my request of clarifications about his impact is still unanswered. Cambalachero (talk) 14:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear I didn't support posting in its current state - it should be crystal clear of someone's impact or legacy from sourced content in at least a few paragraphs within the article. I think there was some potential for that in this case but as of now the reader has to read through and pick that up from disparate parts of the article to see that. Masem (t) 17:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The new Pope was posted in just an hour at ITN while his article was the subject of intense activity of very variable quality. Speed was obviously the priority in that case; not quality. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An explanation of why you think he's so significant would be more useful than a mere vote. I would have no problem to change to support if someone bothered to point some significant impact of his presidency that I may have overlooked. Cambalachero (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
His govt legalized abortion, legalized marijuana, legalized same-sex marriage -- all in Catholic Latin America. I've just added a paragraph on those progressive policies (and others) to the intro in the hope of underscoring his impact (they were all in there but, yes, somewhat dispersed). Moscow Mule (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All that seems a bit too little and inconsequential to me (in Argentina, Alfonsín sent the heads of the military junta to trial, Menem and Milei solved two hyperinflation processes; that's a bit more of an impact than just getting some people to raise hands and pass a bill), but I can see why readers with lower standards would think that's important. Changed to support the blurb. Cambalachero (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The readership spiked high enough to put the subject in the top 10 for yesterday – up there with the Pope and Pete Rose. This is evidence that the story has generated good coverage and interest. If it works, don't fix it. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, posting an article at the top of Wikipedia's front page will send large amounts of traffic to that article. Is that what you're saying? Celjski Grad (talk) 10:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Absolutely not, and this shouldn't even have an article. It's a big nothingburger. As of yet, it's just a direction to agencies to request things. If it were a mandate, it would almost certainly be overturned in the courts. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me!05:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The U.S. and China agree to a trade deal in which, for 90 days, U.S. tariffs on most Chinese goods will drop from 145% to 30%, while China's retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods will drop from 125% to 10%. (BBC News)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Oppose on quality as there are multiple issues with the article. Firstly, there are swathes of unreferenced text. Secondly, the 'Results' section has no prose. Thirdly, the 'Results by county' sub-section contains an empty table. Fourthly, there is nothing about the post-election reactions from politicians and observers. The article has way to go before posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not ready. The material in the article seems fine, though could do with some copyediting. However, there is no prose whatsoever in the 'results' section or explaining the outcome, and the 'Results by county' table is empty. That needs to be filled out and at least a full paragraph of referenced prose added to the results section. Modest Geniustalk12:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: This is like a ceasefire in a hot war and seems quite a significant withdrawal from the precipice. What the final outcome will be is still uncertain but so it goes... Andrew🐉(talk) 11:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, anything that this White House does is prone to massive and total reversals at the drop of a hat, so there’s no real point in posting anything policy-wise that they announce short of a declaration of war or launching an internal self-coup. RPH (talk) 11:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Its a 90 day pause. Not yet permanent. And unlike a combat situation ceasefire where we can tell if things are changed immediately, the impact of a pause in overseas trade will take weeks to see. Masem (t) 12:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Good faith, but tariff rates from this administration are too volatile for us to post something like a temporary reduction to massive tariffs that he himself put in place just a few weeks ago. A few months from now, the massive tariffs on not only China but also the entire rest of the world will all be unpaused, and who knows whether he'll keep them, scrap them all permanently, or raise them even higher. Vanilla Wizard 💙14:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We can't post every change in tariffs that Trump introduces / cancels / changes after a few days, especially in deals with individual countries. A lot of the US-UK tariffs were just removed or reduced by a new deal a few days ago, and I wouldn't expect that to be in ITN. Besides, this is removing a barrier that Trump himself introduced just a few weeks ago; it's performative politics designed to generate headlines not make sensible economic policy. Modest Geniustalk14:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Support altblurb in principle, but the insurgency article needs more updates. This is a major step in a serious conflict. The article is generally good, but only the lead & infobox have been updated with the latest events. The '2025 ceasefire' section halts at March this year, with no explanation of the recent events. That needs sorting out, as does the table that is orange-tagged for original research. The article on the party is no better, with just one unreferenced sentence on the ceasefire and a huge copy-paste of the PKK statement, which is probably copyright infringement. Modest Geniustalk14:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article now has two sentences (with one reference) of updates, which still isn't sufficient. It shouldn't be hard to write a paragraph about this, given the numerous media reports that are available. Modest Geniustalk11:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality About 5 or so unsourced paragraphs, one orange tagged section (which may not need to be tagged but one should check if the sources support the data in that tab) and some bad proseline in the latter third of the article. The item is significant enough for ITN, but quality is far from ready. Masem (t) 15:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, oppose on quality the end of such a long insurgency is definitely notable enough for ITN, but agree with Masem that the orange tags need to be addressed. FlipandFlopped㋡19:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on significance and quality. There are a few inline citation needed tags, but no orange or red section tags, nor are any needed, so if I'm reading ITNCRIT correctly this is acceptable. For the humungous length of the article, it's in pretty decent shape sourcing-wise. Toadspike[Talk]08:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support End to a 46-year insurgency which killed tens of thousands of people.
Admin comment I've gone through the article and either deleted or hidden all unreferenced content. I've also protected a suitable image ("Female PKK guerrillas pictured"). However, the article is too thin on updates; there are a mere two sentences in the body and nothing in the lead. From my perspective, once that's been amended, this could get posted. Schwede6620:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At least two police officers are killed and three others are injured in a roadside bombing targeting a police vehicle in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (CTV News)
Five people are killed, dozens are injured including three critically, and hundreds are displaced in a fire at a four-story apartment building in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States. (WTMJ-TV)(CNN)
A runner collapses and later dies near the finish line during running event Loop Leeuwarden in Leeuwarden, Netherlands, causing the organizers to cancel the event. (NOS)
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Oppose barely more than a stub at 1400 characters. If this is all the information and sources about him, then also not convinced he's actually notable enough for an article, but that is a separate question. For now, WP:ITNQUALITY is not met. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support As of now article is about 1600 bytes of prose which is over the minimum required for DYK (and my personal benchmark), which is 1500. Short, yes, but it meets all requirements of citation, etc. ❤HistoryTheorist❤01:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Closed) 2024–25 Basketball Champions League Winner
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The best teams play on the Euroleague, but is on a franchise system just like NBA and what they had wanted to do with the soccer European Super League. This has clubs enter via merit but since the best clubs bypass this competition the level is lower than the Euroleague's. Howard the Duck (talk) 03:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing that says a non ITNR sports event can't be posted, but one must show why, if that event is not at ITNR, its significance to be posted on its own for ITNC. Masem (t) 12:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The top tier of European basketball is the Euroleague, which we already have on ITNR. Our article on the European professional club basketball system indicates that the Basketball Champions League is a less prestigious competition run by a different organisation. We already post at least three basketball competitions per year and I don't think this one is sufficiently impactful to include as well. Modest Geniustalk13:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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At least seven people die and others are injured over two districts in Mogadishu, Somalia, after a flood triggered by severe rainfall sweeps infrastructure including Aden Adde Airport. The rain also collapses nine houses and floods over 200 others. (Reuters)(Devdiscourse)
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Nominator's comments: English "teenage founder of the Corydon Singers and commanding Covent Garden bass", as the 13 May obit says, - there wasn't much of an article until that came, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
It was NOT unreferenced. In fact, there is a note immediately following it that says "the source at the bottom of the infobox deals with this", which it does. However, to make it more obvious, I've added a source direct to the birth date and place. HiLo48 (talk) 08:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Long anticipated crash landing, considering back in 1972 and 1981, many pieces of the main bus of this probe fell back into earth. a few in 1972, and others in around 1978-1981. There is still ongoing coverage of this probe after it fell. Passes WP:N because of this, it has had coverage before the event and after the event. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:C4D9:BD2C:F4D8:E357 (talk) 15:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)}}[reply]
Oppose I personally think it's really cool that a failed 50 year old probe just reentered the atmosphere, but in reality, it just crashed harmlessly into the ocean. I'd say this is good faith, but it's not very important, nor did it have an effect on anything. qw3rty22:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support original blurb Interesting event getting coverage that would help diversify ITN. An argument could be made that this is DYK and not ITN but I would personally like to see this posted. The article is in good shape. I also fixed the grammar of the original blurb. --SpectralIon03:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Misleading blurbs The alt blurbs read as if the probe landed sofly somewhere on the island of Java, near Jakarta. The original blurb sounds more correct, although too wordy. Besides that, weak oppose in terms of notability - no damage and no injuries; besides, space junk crashes frequently on Earth. Khuft (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality. The article really glosses over how this mission failed. Its interesting about it finally reentering the atmosphere and crash, but the article needs to properly reflect the whole mission. Masem (t) 17:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It came down roughly when predicted and fell into the ocean. There was no damage and no hardware has been recovered. This was a mildly diverting story for a few days, but will quickly be forgotten. This would make a nice DYK if the article can be sufficiently expanded (or brought to GA standard), but it's not significant enough for an ITN blurb. Modest Geniustalk13:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's been over a week since creation so unless we can get this article to 70,000 bytes within the next few days (current size 17,000 bytes) or to GA quality it won't find itself at DYK. Departure– (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose on the quality issue raised in the last related nomination, in that there were at least five separate articles covering this one flare-up and rife with POV issues. Significance of this is ITN-worthy but we need these articles sorted out first. Masem (t) 14:23, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose we keep posting the same, relatively minor, story. The cease-fire line, and the occasional skirmish, are over 75-years old. Notwithstanding that, the articles are a hot mess; why there's actually 2 3 articles I don't know. Nfitz (talk) 15:20, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Reports indicate that Pakistan has violated the ceasefire, which could lead to a resumption of hostilities.--9ninety (talk) 16:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support on notability, as the sole blurb needed for the conflict as the previous one was pulled per ERRORS. The ceasefire's shaky, yes, but per Al-Jazeera the ceasefire has been agreed to by both sides and the "explosions" appear routine and nothing's happened since then; this is akin to what Israel calls a ceasefire, and most of us rightfully have no problem posting those on their own merits. Oppose on quality, as the article that should be the target, 2025 India–Pakistan conflict, still has two orange tags. Departure– (talk) 01:22, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Reports indicate that both countries have already violated the ceasefire. This makes it about as credible as any ceasefire Israel makes. --SpectralIon03:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait – More recent news indicates that the ceasefire still holds despite several violations (per CNN [2]), but those violations and wording from Indian officials indicate that the ceasefire is shaky at best. ArkHyena (they/any) 11:28, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Support Article is in good condition and sourcing is complete. Suggesting this to be posted as soon as possible before it is swallowed by the inevitable archiving bot. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael10:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support Article is in good condition and sourcing is complete. Suggesting this to be posted as soon as possible before it is swallowed by the inevitable archiving bot. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael10:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Holocaust survivor who was active as a public speaker in not forgetting, died at age 103. The article looks good and I am surprised that nobody brought it here yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support Article is in good condition and sourcing is complete. Suggesting this to be posted as soon as possible before it is swallowed by the inevitable archiving bot. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael10:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
A member of the MS-13 gang is sentenced to 55 years imprisonment for the mass stabbing murders of five people, including a teenager and three young men at a park in Long Island, New York, United States, in April 2017. (Toronto Sun)
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Pope has been elected! Will probably be announced soon today, so nominating now. EF516:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't a clear winner, though. That's my point. Unless the blurb is "Cardinals conclude the papal conclave" or some variant an election with obvious unknown results shouldn't be nominated. Departure– (talk) 16:34, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, which is within the next hour. I'm invoking WP:IAR by nominating this now, as there is a 100% chance it'll be posted. — EF516:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support once we know who was elected and the name taken. I would have the blurb mention both the papal name and the personal name of the one elected. Gust Justice (talk) 16:32, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Simply saying they have elected a pope isn't a worthy article to post, wait until they announce who the new pope is Egg470 (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait and post when announced. This is ITNR (change in most relevant head of state/government) and the quality is fine. With white smoke up we should know shortly and we can add the details. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions16:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support within an hour, the new pope will be announced. So, please keep the blurb nomination open in order to update the blurb once the name is announced. I also agree that this is ITNR so we should update the blurb according to how ITNR guideline does. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 16:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Everyone is really gunning to get this on the front page. The pope hasn't been announced, but he will be within the hour. No reason to rush things, obviously whether to post it won't be controversial.Support alt 3 There we go. Estreyeria (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Why the rush to nominate? I think everyone recognizes that we aren't going to post this until we have the actual name of the new pope. Mlb96 (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, he's going to be announced in the next hour, no? Per above, I invoked WP:IAR given this will 100% be posted regardless today. — EF516:55, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, like seriously. The entirety of ITN really wants to get this on the front page lmao, but please wait atleast until we have an official name. TwistedAxe[contact]17:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait and close this pointlessly premature nomination. We are an encyclopaedia, not a breaking news service. Even once the winner has been announced, their biographical article needs to be updated and brought up to a good enough standard to be bold-linked from the main page. That work hasn't even begun yet. Nominations should not be made until after the event has happened and the article has been updated. Modest Geniustalk17:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
usually with an election the article on the election is the bold-linked one, which in this case would be the article on the conclave. ✨ 4 🧚♂amKING17:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait: Hold your horses. We don't even have a name to report on. When his identity is known, let's totally put it up. BOTTO (T•C)17:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Make that more than a tiny bit. Friends, the purpose of ITN is to showcase quality articles, not get things out fast, and there's very little analysis and context for this result right now. In fact, when I made the above comment, there was a glaring typo in the conclave article and the new pope's article was not updated at all. Please check the quality of the articles. And until this edit is published, the best blurbs weren't even bolded. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Currently, the new pope's article is in no state of posting. There's formatting issues, duplicating sections, and accidental mass reversions from edit conflicts, and I've edit conflicted four times in a row now trying to fix that and failing to. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maintaining my oppose for now - I still don't think the article on Leo XIV is up to quality or otherwise properly updated. Departure– (talk) 17:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is ITNR. The only thing that matters is the quality of the articles. It's been predetermined this us important. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, the article looks decent enough now. The blurb should mention Peru where he was active for long periods, instead of a narrow North American image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment per discussion as WP:ERRORS, I switched this to "United States-born" per the overwhelming coverage in the news focusing on his birth country and not his birth continent. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 19:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"United States-born" is so awkward. Why not just "American-born"? We are an English encyclopedia after all. Or if we're going to be real sticklers about it (despite the fact that in English, "American" means "From the US"), then "US-born" works too. There's really little doubt anyone reading the front page is not going to know what the US is. -- RockstoneSend me a message!20:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting Support Massive international news, however are we going to consider his ties to Peru in the blurb? He was Archbishop in Peru afterall. Normalman101 (talk) (late signature)
Comment. Why "United States-born"? Since it's bigger, the focus should be on North America. I think "overwhelming coverage in the news focusing on his birth country" is unconvincing - most of the "overwhelming coverage" in question is American. We are an encyclopedia, not an echo of editorials. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:00, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BBC, Al Jazeera, dawn.com (hard to see but its there!) all have on their front page that Leo is the first US pope. I wouldn't be opposed to also adding Bishop of Chiclayo, Peru or somethign to that effect QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 22:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that 'North America' should be preferred in the blurb. If you take a deeper look at the sources, even though 'American' is mentioned in the titles, first pope born in/from 'North America' is in the text (e.g. [The Washington Post]). There are also reliable sources that use 'North American' (e.g. The Telepgraph). If we want to underline that he's the first in a geographical context, we should always refer to a wider geographical area, which in this case is North America. Another option is to simply remove that fact from the blurb as redundant. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:48, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
> we should always refer to a wider geographical area
Firstly, I'm not sure he does release it, he says "that's with jdflynn", perhaps that's the true copyright holder of the work? Secondly, I think for the licence to be valid the copyright holder should release it somewhere formally with that licence (e.g. Commons or Flickr), or file a Commons:OTRS ticket to the effect that he's releasing it. I wouldn't put on the main page until that's done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also prefer the bold link to the person rather than the election process, parallel to Merz, - there are many more Catholics on earth than Germans ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like we did? Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina (pictured) is elected as Pope Francis, becoming the first Latin American pope of the Catholic ChurchNatg 19 (talk) 06:12, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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